Ending Chronic Disease

Is chronic disease really inevitable – or have we been conditioned to believe it is? In this conversation, Dr. Fab Mancini is with Dr. Mike Van Thielen – a world-class expert in biohacking, holistic health, and peak performance. Together, they expose the myths keeping people sick and reveal how to tap into the body’s natural ability to heal itself. Whether you’re facing health challenges or simply want to optimize your health and life, this episode delivers practical steps, powerful mind shifts, and real hope for lasting transformation.

Highlights:

01:00 Health Is the Default

Dr. Mike redefines health, explaining that disease is rare when the body is given the right conditions to heal itself naturally.

04:00 The Body’s Healing Power

With 40 trillion cells generating 1.8 quadrillion reactions per second, the body proves it’s built for regeneration and self-repair.

08:10 How Disease Progresses

Dr. Mike shows how untreated symptoms can quietly escalate into life-threatening conditions over time.

12:50 Mindset and Healing

How thoughts and beliefs directly influence physical health — and how negative labels can program illness at a subconscious level.

14:00 Thought Transformation

Dr. Mike outlines how thoughts shape beliefs, actions, character, and ultimately, your health outcomes.

19:40 The Limitless Lab

Introducing his Limitless Lab program, Dr. Mike empowers individuals to design a personalized, holistic health upgrade through five key pillars.

About the Guest: 

Dr. Mike Van Thielen, PH.D. HOLISTIC NUTRITION, HEALTH & WELLNESS EXPERT, RENOWNED AUTHOR, INTERNATIONAL KEYNOTE & MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKER, AND WORLD RECORD HOLDER in SWIMMING, has been involved in optimal health practices, anti-aging and regenerative medicine, sports performance, nutrition, and supplementation for over three decades.

Dr. Mike is a licensed physical therapist, a licensed acupuncture physician, and a doctor of Oriental Medicine, with certifications in injection therapy, homeopathy and homotoxicology, Chinese herbal medicine, and non-invasive cosmetic procedures. He also has a Ph.D. in Holistic Nutrition from the College of Natural Health. Dr. Mike is the author of the revolutionary book “Health 4 Life – User Manual” (2014) and is featured in the book “Motivational Speakers America – The Indispensable Guide to America’s Business and Motivational Speakers” as a Top International Keynote Speaker alongside celebrities such as Les Brown and Brian Tracy. Dr. Mike also shared the stage with Darren Hardy, owner of Success Magazine.

Dr. Mike is an All-American and is a current World Record Holder in swimming. He also holds 28 U.S. National Titles and 2 YMCA National records. He is a proud member of the exclusive WSA – World Sports Alumni.Currently, Dr. Mike is the Chief Medical Officer at ClarigenZ and the Executive Director of Physical Therapy, Wellness, and Regenerative Medicine at Emerge HealthCare (Melbourne, FL). 

Website: mikevanthielen.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drmike_health4life

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikevanthielenphd/

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Transcript
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Dr. Mike Van Thielen: So what we need to understand when it comes to chronic disease is that it can be stopped at any given seconds. You just need to make that decision, because chronic disease is basically an evolution of symptoms.

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Dr. Fab Mancini: This is Dr Fab Mancini. I'm so excited because I have Dr. Mike Van Thielen, which is a dear friend, a mentor, somebody that I learned so much of because not only had he spent his life being a doctor of physical therapy, but also a PhD in holistic nutrition and a best selling author speaker, one of the most motivational speakers that I've ever heard on the subject of health, as you will find out today, but somebody that actually leaves his message and as we're having this discussion of ending chronic disease, I just felt like we needed to have somebody at his caliber to bring great insights as to what you can do to actually improve your health and well being so. Dr, Mike, it's such a pleasure to see you again. You're one of my favorite people in the world, and I've been looking forward to this interview.

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Dr. Mike Van Thielen: Well, thanks again for having me. Dr, Feb, always a pleasure talking to you. Well, you know you have shared with me tremendous insights over the last few years that we've gotten to know each other, and you are a great leader in the world of bio hacking and training, not only providers like me, in how to be able to improve the health and the human potential that we all have. And I noticed that in your in the past, you keep mentioning health is the norm and disease is the exception. Let's start there. Tell me a little bit about what is the norm. Why do you say health is the norm where there are so many sick people out there in the world? Yeah, no, I keep saying that that's correct, and here's why. Because I work with individuals with chronic disease, and I think many times you need the individual to participate and make decisions with you, not just tell them what to do, because if they don't know why you're telling them to do something, then it's just not going to work. They're not going to be compliant for a long time. So there's a few concepts you need to understand, and this is one of those important concepts, because, you know, there are laws of human life. One of the better books out there is the laws of human life, by Herbert Sheldon. And so one of those laws of human life is the law of self preservation, which basically means, as long as we are breathing air, our body will strive for perfect health no matter what. So then the question become, why are so many of us struggling and in chronic disease? If the body is trying to heal us all the time? Well, you know, it's because we don't understand that the body can heal itself. And so instead of intervening, meaning using drugs, prescription medication, injections and surgeries, thinking that would solve or give us a long, lasting results. I beg to differ. I think we need to step back and let the body heal itself and put it in a state of balance and homeostasis. And so the best way that I have my patients understand this is just talk a little bit on numbers. Right? We all know we have 40 trillion cells. We can't fan them. What that means 40 trillion, but we have 40 trillion cells. But to go a little bit further, each one of those cells as a few 100 to a few 100,000 mitochondria, those are our energy factories that produce that ATP, right? So now 40 trillion times a few 100 or a few 100,000 and each of those mitochondria produces 2 billion ATP molecules per minute per minute. Why do we need so much much energy? Well, we need to sustain the 1.8 quadrillion chemical reactions per second, right? So this, this is mind boggling, and to think that we as humans can give a medication or an injection or take out a gallbladder and have a positive effect on that very delicate system, is a little bit arrogant, I would say. So what we need to learn from this is we need to step aside and we need to say, Okay, we have a system of body that, by the law of human life, can fix itself. So what is our job? Our job is to give it the right tools and put it in the correct condition so that it can do its job of healing. And that's why people need to start, you know, putting in foundational elements into place, such as drinking enough water, getting enough sunlight, of course, having a good diet. You know, upgrading their mind, upgrading their body, but I think it's a concept that we need to understand and the patients too, because it's not just getting another pill, another medication, another injection. It's as they already know. Dr fab, it's a vicious circle of worse and worse conditions, right? So we can break that anytime we want to.

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Dr. Fab Mancini: So you know, Dr Mike, every time I talk to you, one of the things that I'm admired about you is that you were trained very traditional, in all of your degrees. And most people don't know also that you've been an Olympic athlete and you've been in this space for a long time. But we know that our healthcare system is broken, and you know that many of the ways that we were trained were not the proper way that the body heals. We also have the majority of the population out there going to a traditional medical doctor for their particular answers, right, which seem to be, for the most part, pharmaceutical, maybe from time to time, surgical in nature, what do you feel people need to understand as you transition into the functional space which you have become a leader in that space? What do you feel the average person should really evaluate as they're meeting with their medical doctors, traditional healthcare being offered a bill or pharma outfit, and in some cases, being told they need to take this for the rest of their life, right? What do you think that they need to really ask themselves and potentially research as to that there is another world out there that is solving some of these problems in a very natural, holistic, and, more importantly, safer way.

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Dr. Fab Mancini: You know, it's interesting, because we noticed over the last few months and even the last few years, this America make America healthy again movement, and even when the administration began to talk about, let's address the root causes of the problem. Let's begin to leverage Natural Health Sciences instead of depending always on pharma and surgeries, which are primarily managing our symptoms but not really solving it. That's why the statistics are so great. So I love the fact that you gonna teach me to look at the root cause. What's causing this in the first place, I as a consumer, as an individual, can make a decision to say, You know what? That decision is not gonna help me long term or even short term. Let's change the decision. So that takes what we call a mindset that what is the power of the mind when it comes to looking at ourselves a chronic disease, and I look at it in a different way. I look at you as a professional athlete, and let's say you become my coach. What do you think as an athlete, right? As an individual, should be my mindset to get me ready to be able to begin to not only recognize the better behaviors to help me be healthy, but more importantly, come up with new behaviors and get out of my comfort zone that can actually not only make me healthier, but actually get me to live longer, higher quantity of life, be happier, etc. So what is the role of mindset when it comes to chronic disease? In your opinion? Yeah,

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Dr. Mike Van Thielen: I think it's, it's maybe the number one important thing. Because, you know, like you said, I did physical education. I got a world record in swimming. I'm into physical therapy was always about the body, but the last decade also hanging around with you and all your amazing people at your events, Dr fat, it becomes more and more evident that the mind is the most powerful piece in the puzzle, and especially our patients have no clue about that. They have not been told about that either. But it becomes evident because with the knowledge that you and I have now, when we look at our patients, we can actually see what's happening, right? Because if a patient is diagnosed with a disease, let's say, because I call it a label, cancer, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, consciously or unconsciously, that very negative word is sitting there in our subconscious mind, whether we're thinking about it or not, and if the doctor tells the patient, you will probably die within the next year because of this cancer, and if the patient believes that, then the doctor is going to be exactly right and exactly on. So that's how powerful the mind is. The mind is the blueprint to not our to our future and to our failures and successes, but it also 100% not 99 controls your health and your disease. It controls it 100% and I've delved into this more and more over the last few years, and especially the last few months, and so I'm working very strong on myself too to get to that next level. But with my patients now, I have seven foundations that I teach them, and the first thing that we're gonna have to start implementing is that mindset, because we're all obviously, you know, limited by our past, because we label those lessons that we learnt, we label them as failures. And so we are very limited based on our past experiences, whether it's our own experiences, our parents, our loved ones, or even previous generations. We're limited by those and so we need to start to changing, you know that belief system, and you know, Mohamed Gandhi basically was very clear on how life progresses, right? Our thoughts that we thinking. If we repeat our thoughts, those becomes our beliefs, our beliefs we're going to act upon. So those become our actions, and those actions then basically create our character, and eventually create our life, our existence, on who we are. So it starts with your thoughts, and so most people are not thinking about what they're thinking. It just happens, right? But if you constantly think, I'm sick, I have cancer, I gotta go to the doctor, I probably won't get better. I'll probably die soon. If that's what your thought is, then that's what's gonna be reality, right? So especially with patients with chronic disease. And if you're listening and you have chronic disease, the first thing you gotta start working on is the thoughts you're thinking. And there's much help out there from Dr fab, from myself, and many people experts in this area. Even if you go on YouTube, you know, listen to what Jodi spends up. There are. Techniques and tools that we can use at no cost to start training and rewiring our brain by thinking differently. Anytime you catch yourself with a negative thought, you know we need to. We need to recognize that, oh, I'm thinking something negative, then reframe it in something positive. And if we keep doing that, we start to rewire. So I'll my patients now to rewire their brain thinking positive. And instead of focusing on this dirty word cancer or rheumatoid arthritis or COPD or emphysema, we're gonna say no. What we're gonna do is we're gonna overcome this, and we're gonna be projected by our future, which means what we're gonna overcome this disease in just a few months, because it doesn't have to take long. We're gonna live happy. We're gonna be able to play 18 holes of golf. We're gonna be able to see our grandkids grow up, and I'm gonna be 100 years and still be golfing. And so that's the mindset, and that's what we're gonna be pulled forward by. And I believe if we can do that with our chronic disease patients, then all the other stuff that we do as physicians, whether it's chiropractor or sunlight or water or hydrogen or PMF, all these tools will work much better if that mindset is there, because if we make them believe that those things work, then they're gonna work. If they say, Ah, I'll try it, but I don't believe it's gonna work, then it doesn't matter how good that equipment is. And so I've been convinced of that today, that upgrading that mind and really working with the thoughts you think, the words you speak, and then acting upon those things is something that all of practitioners need to start integrating, but patients themselves can start working on that today without spending any dollar.

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Dr. Fab Mancini: Well, you know, one of the things that I've been a little bit concerned about it, I know you are, too, is the health of our children. And there may be a lot of parents right now listening and watching this and saying to themselves, you know, what can I do to ensure that even though I may not be making the best choices? How can I encourage my children to make better choices so that way they have a less less likely chance to develop a chronic disease like heart disease, cancer, arthritis, obesity, chronic pain? I mean, there's so many of them. What do you think are some of the best advice that you've been able to give some of your parents patients, to be able to get their kids in the right frame of mind and in the right frame of behaviors, to actually become disease free when it comes to chronic illnesses?

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Dr. Fab Mancini: I love it, and I know that you still take care of some patients, and you do virtual care, which is also wonderful, because I know you have some of the most influential people out there as your patients, but you came up with this system, limitless Lab, which you've been teaching people how to really live a limitless life, you know, and have limitless health. Tell me a little bit about how somebody that may be listening to this, and what is the primary value that this program offers somebody that may be experiencing right now one of these chronic diseases, and how they can benefit from that?

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Dr. Fab Mancini: Well, you know, I've lived it, and for those of you that are listening, I told you they were going to be inspired today. And if you feel I'm going to put Dr Mike's information so you can actually check out his program and his membership program, because he's made it accessible to everyone out there. There is no excuse anymore to actually begin this journey and how you can optimize your health. But also remember, you're learning from one of the top. Leaders in the healthcare space that has actually done it for many others, believes it every single day. So thank you, Dr Mike, for your time, for all the incredible wisdom that you share with us, but also your passion, because it's obvious that you live this and you're very passionate about it, and sometimes we could use a little bit of that passion when it comes to making healthy choices every single day. So thank you for coming. Thanks everybody for listening, and please check Dr Mike out. I know that you would enjoy very much learning from him, but more importantly, you get a taste of what is available to you if you choose to make the right choices, remember exercise your mindset, because your mindset sets the foundation for the behaviors that you're going to be acting on. So thank you so much. I will see you soon.

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